From saill.white at openlina.com Sun Apr 13 11:27:49 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.com (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Announcing LINA-0.72beta03 Message-ID: <48023485.6050803@openlina.com> We at Lina Software are proud to announce the release of LINA-0.72beta03! This release is free of a large number of bugs and annoying features discovered by users of the beta02 release. The new features and bug fixes in LINA-0.72beta03 are detailed below. LINA-0.72beta03 is not a production release. It is one in a series of betas intended to prepare LINA for wider use. LINA-0.72beta03 still contains a number of bugs and inconveniences, some of which were discovered during the testing process. These ?known bugs? are detailed below. DEMOS IN THIS VERSION: Nano Vim Elinks ImageMagick Apache Wordpress SUPPORTED OPERATING SYSTEMS: Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 2000 Windows 2003 Mac OS X Tiger Linux Fedora 7 Linux Fedora 8 Linux Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Linux Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) (We are not currently supporting Debian 4 due to missing dependencies on the basic Debian install. Debian, OpenSUSE and PCLinuxOS will be supported in the next release) CHANGES IN THIS VERSION THAT AFFECT ALL PLATFORMS: - The installer downloads the appropriate version of the LINA disk. This allows us to support older versions of LINA. The command ?lina -v? was added to return the version of LINA that is installed. - We have disabled installation messages unless they have DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical. - We have implemented ?quickstart? using a saved virtual machine state to quickly start LINA for running applications. The first applications now takes under three seconds to start in best cases and we are working to improve it in more difficult cases. Our medium-term goal is less than a second. - We have added a file path translation library to make text-mode user interface programs like vim run as expected on different platforms. WINDOWS-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION: - We now support Windows 2000 and Windows 2003. - We have eliminated timed-waits within the LINA installer and replaced them with condition-checking. This eliminates timeouts and failed installs on slow machines. - We now copy over sleep.exe, touch.exe, and use the full path when installing in order to eliminate a Windows 2003 hang when a sleep from a parallel cygwin install was encountered. MAC OS X-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - We have eliminated the Mac OS X installer segfaults on new versions of Tiger that were reported by several users. - We have added the wget package so that users don't need to install it themselves. - We have reduced the size of the LINA DMG from 500MB to 100MB. - We have removed the blank Mac OS X configure screen. UNIX-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - The text and progress bar now update better in the installers - We are working to eliminate installer ?freezes? that occur when the installer is working, but not refreshing widgets, so the interface can be ?erased? by another application obscuring it on the desktop. KNOWN BUGS AND INCONVENIENCES: - Starting more than one installer at a time can cause a failure. In the next release we will either prohibit this behavior or work to allow it. - When installing applications, the installer progress bar appears to freeze because quite a bit is going on. In the next release we will improve our system for informing the user of progress. - In some circumstances, the first application started on LINA starts very slowly. Quickstart is meant to solve this, but we are still seeing some instances when it takes a long time for an application to start. - In the Windows installer, the progress bar behaves oddly - After downloading the LINA disk, the Mac OS X progress bar jumps back and forth - A critical file needed by LINA (lina/var/lock/safe.lock) was not created in one install instance leading to a failure to install LINA. This bug was not reproducible - File mappings are sometimes incorrect in applications, resulting in unexpected behavior, especially by Vim. More information about the release can be found at our community website at http://openlina.org . Instructions for downloading and installing LINA can be found in our wiki at http://openlina.org/wiki . A special thanks to everyone who downloaded and gave us feedback on LINA-0.72beta02. The community's help is making it possible for us to rapidly improve LINA's quality and reliability for the official 0.72 release. Sincerely, The LINA release team From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 13 15:11:40 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:11:40 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer Message-ID: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Hi there, I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx for all your work Dan -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870 From saill.white at openlina.org Sun Apr 13 15:29:00 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.org (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer In-Reply-To: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> References: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Message-ID: <48026D0C.4040504@openlina.org> Hi Dan, Thanks for reminding me to put the source files in the current directory - I will put them up right away. Luckily there hasn't been too much demand. As we go along we will try to make the installers more generic, or at least to give a list of OS's that might be compatible with each one, based on our experience and on user feedback. You might try one of the other installers on it, although you will probably be missing some dependencies since Arch is so lightweight. Please let us know if you have any luck! We will be releasing the developer tools and instructions for using them in the next beta - a couple more weeks. Thanks very much for the feedback. Saill Dan Vratil wrote: > Hi there, > I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to > test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from > sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files > from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does > not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent > installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about > another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. > > BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx > for all your work > > Dan From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 20 14:36:08 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:36:08 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> References: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> Message-ID: <200804202136.09794.progdan@progdansoft.com> Ahoj, dekujeme za pozvani. Potvrzuju ucast vsech ctyrech :) On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:22:38 Petra Gaislerov? wrote: > Tyto soubory byly odesl?ny pomoc? programu Zoner Photo Studio 8. > Pro dal?? informace nav?tivte http://www.zoner.cz/zps. -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870 From saill.white at openlina.com Sun Apr 13 11:27:49 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.com (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Announcing LINA-0.72beta03 Message-ID: <48023485.6050803@openlina.com> We at Lina Software are proud to announce the release of LINA-0.72beta03! This release is free of a large number of bugs and annoying features discovered by users of the beta02 release. The new features and bug fixes in LINA-0.72beta03 are detailed below. LINA-0.72beta03 is not a production release. It is one in a series of betas intended to prepare LINA for wider use. LINA-0.72beta03 still contains a number of bugs and inconveniences, some of which were discovered during the testing process. These ?known bugs? are detailed below. DEMOS IN THIS VERSION: Nano Vim Elinks ImageMagick Apache Wordpress SUPPORTED OPERATING SYSTEMS: Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 2000 Windows 2003 Mac OS X Tiger Linux Fedora 7 Linux Fedora 8 Linux Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Linux Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) (We are not currently supporting Debian 4 due to missing dependencies on the basic Debian install. Debian, OpenSUSE and PCLinuxOS will be supported in the next release) CHANGES IN THIS VERSION THAT AFFECT ALL PLATFORMS: - The installer downloads the appropriate version of the LINA disk. This allows us to support older versions of LINA. The command ?lina -v? was added to return the version of LINA that is installed. - We have disabled installation messages unless they have DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical. - We have implemented ?quickstart? using a saved virtual machine state to quickly start LINA for running applications. The first applications now takes under three seconds to start in best cases and we are working to improve it in more difficult cases. Our medium-term goal is less than a second. - We have added a file path translation library to make text-mode user interface programs like vim run as expected on different platforms. WINDOWS-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION: - We now support Windows 2000 and Windows 2003. - We have eliminated timed-waits within the LINA installer and replaced them with condition-checking. This eliminates timeouts and failed installs on slow machines. - We now copy over sleep.exe, touch.exe, and use the full path when installing in order to eliminate a Windows 2003 hang when a sleep from a parallel cygwin install was encountered. MAC OS X-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - We have eliminated the Mac OS X installer segfaults on new versions of Tiger that were reported by several users. - We have added the wget package so that users don't need to install it themselves. - We have reduced the size of the LINA DMG from 500MB to 100MB. - We have removed the blank Mac OS X configure screen. UNIX-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - The text and progress bar now update better in the installers - We are working to eliminate installer ?freezes? that occur when the installer is working, but not refreshing widgets, so the interface can be ?erased? by another application obscuring it on the desktop. KNOWN BUGS AND INCONVENIENCES: - Starting more than one installer at a time can cause a failure. In the next release we will either prohibit this behavior or work to allow it. - When installing applications, the installer progress bar appears to freeze because quite a bit is going on. In the next release we will improve our system for informing the user of progress. - In some circumstances, the first application started on LINA starts very slowly. Quickstart is meant to solve this, but we are still seeing some instances when it takes a long time for an application to start. - In the Windows installer, the progress bar behaves oddly - After downloading the LINA disk, the Mac OS X progress bar jumps back and forth - A critical file needed by LINA (lina/var/lock/safe.lock) was not created in one install instance leading to a failure to install LINA. This bug was not reproducible - File mappings are sometimes incorrect in applications, resulting in unexpected behavior, especially by Vim. More information about the release can be found at our community website at http://openlina.org . Instructions for downloading and installing LINA can be found in our wiki at http://openlina.org/wiki . A special thanks to everyone who downloaded and gave us feedback on LINA-0.72beta02. The community's help is making it possible for us to rapidly improve LINA's quality and reliability for the official 0.72 release. Sincerely, The LINA release team From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 13 15:11:40 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:11:40 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer Message-ID: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Hi there, I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx for all your work Dan -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870 From saill.white at openlina.org Sun Apr 13 15:29:00 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.org (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer In-Reply-To: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> References: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Message-ID: <48026D0C.4040504@openlina.org> Hi Dan, Thanks for reminding me to put the source files in the current directory - I will put them up right away. Luckily there hasn't been too much demand. As we go along we will try to make the installers more generic, or at least to give a list of OS's that might be compatible with each one, based on our experience and on user feedback. You might try one of the other installers on it, although you will probably be missing some dependencies since Arch is so lightweight. Please let us know if you have any luck! We will be releasing the developer tools and instructions for using them in the next beta - a couple more weeks. Thanks very much for the feedback. Saill Dan Vratil wrote: > Hi there, > I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to > test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from > sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files > from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does > not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent > installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about > another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. > > BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx > for all your work > > Dan From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 20 14:36:08 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:36:08 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> References: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> Message-ID: <200804202136.09794.progdan@progdansoft.com> Ahoj, dekujeme za pozvani. Potvrzuju ucast vsech ctyrech :) On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:22:38 Petra Gaislerov? wrote: > Tyto soubory byly odesl?ny pomoc? programu Zoner Photo Studio 8. > Pro dal?? informace nav?tivte http://www.zoner.cz/zps. -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870 From saill.white at openlina.com Sun Apr 13 11:27:49 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.com (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Announcing LINA-0.72beta03 Message-ID: <48023485.6050803@openlina.com> We at Lina Software are proud to announce the release of LINA-0.72beta03! This release is free of a large number of bugs and annoying features discovered by users of the beta02 release. The new features and bug fixes in LINA-0.72beta03 are detailed below. LINA-0.72beta03 is not a production release. It is one in a series of betas intended to prepare LINA for wider use. LINA-0.72beta03 still contains a number of bugs and inconveniences, some of which were discovered during the testing process. These ?known bugs? are detailed below. DEMOS IN THIS VERSION: Nano Vim Elinks ImageMagick Apache Wordpress SUPPORTED OPERATING SYSTEMS: Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 2000 Windows 2003 Mac OS X Tiger Linux Fedora 7 Linux Fedora 8 Linux Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Linux Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) (We are not currently supporting Debian 4 due to missing dependencies on the basic Debian install. Debian, OpenSUSE and PCLinuxOS will be supported in the next release) CHANGES IN THIS VERSION THAT AFFECT ALL PLATFORMS: - The installer downloads the appropriate version of the LINA disk. This allows us to support older versions of LINA. The command ?lina -v? was added to return the version of LINA that is installed. - We have disabled installation messages unless they have DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical. - We have implemented ?quickstart? using a saved virtual machine state to quickly start LINA for running applications. The first applications now takes under three seconds to start in best cases and we are working to improve it in more difficult cases. Our medium-term goal is less than a second. - We have added a file path translation library to make text-mode user interface programs like vim run as expected on different platforms. WINDOWS-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION: - We now support Windows 2000 and Windows 2003. - We have eliminated timed-waits within the LINA installer and replaced them with condition-checking. This eliminates timeouts and failed installs on slow machines. - We now copy over sleep.exe, touch.exe, and use the full path when installing in order to eliminate a Windows 2003 hang when a sleep from a parallel cygwin install was encountered. MAC OS X-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - We have eliminated the Mac OS X installer segfaults on new versions of Tiger that were reported by several users. - We have added the wget package so that users don't need to install it themselves. - We have reduced the size of the LINA DMG from 500MB to 100MB. - We have removed the blank Mac OS X configure screen. UNIX-SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS VERSION - The text and progress bar now update better in the installers - We are working to eliminate installer ?freezes? that occur when the installer is working, but not refreshing widgets, so the interface can be ?erased? by another application obscuring it on the desktop. KNOWN BUGS AND INCONVENIENCES: - Starting more than one installer at a time can cause a failure. In the next release we will either prohibit this behavior or work to allow it. - When installing applications, the installer progress bar appears to freeze because quite a bit is going on. In the next release we will improve our system for informing the user of progress. - In some circumstances, the first application started on LINA starts very slowly. Quickstart is meant to solve this, but we are still seeing some instances when it takes a long time for an application to start. - In the Windows installer, the progress bar behaves oddly - After downloading the LINA disk, the Mac OS X progress bar jumps back and forth - A critical file needed by LINA (lina/var/lock/safe.lock) was not created in one install instance leading to a failure to install LINA. This bug was not reproducible - File mappings are sometimes incorrect in applications, resulting in unexpected behavior, especially by Vim. More information about the release can be found at our community website at http://openlina.org . Instructions for downloading and installing LINA can be found in our wiki at http://openlina.org/wiki . A special thanks to everyone who downloaded and gave us feedback on LINA-0.72beta02. The community's help is making it possible for us to rapidly improve LINA's quality and reliability for the official 0.72 release. Sincerely, The LINA release team From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 13 15:11:40 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:11:40 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer Message-ID: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Hi there, I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx for all your work Dan -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870 From saill.white at openlina.org Sun Apr 13 15:29:00 2008 From: saill.white at openlina.org (Saill White) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Lina-dev] Linux installer In-Reply-To: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> References: <200804132211.40856.progdan@progdansoft.com> Message-ID: <48026D0C.4040504@openlina.org> Hi Dan, Thanks for reminding me to put the source files in the current directory - I will put them up right away. Luckily there hasn't been too much demand. As we go along we will try to make the installers more generic, or at least to give a list of OS's that might be compatible with each one, based on our experience and on user feedback. You might try one of the other installers on it, although you will probably be missing some dependencies since Arch is so lightweight. Please let us know if you have any luck! We will be releasing the developer tools and instructions for using them in the next beta - a couple more weeks. Thanks very much for the feedback. Saill Dan Vratil wrote: > Hi there, > I tested LINA on Windows, I haven't found any problems yet. But I'd like to > test LINA on Linux. I'm using ArchLinux and have no time to compile it from > sources (I almost forgot - I can't download 3rd party libraries and files > from http://www.openlina.org/download/current/third-party.tar.gz - File does > not exist), so it would be nice, if there was a distribution independent > installer, for example as ATI drivers have (just example - no idea about > another installer). Just tu divide x86 and x86_64 platforms. > > BTW: is there any manual how to make a custom applications comming soon? Thx > for all your work > > Dan From progdan at progdansoft.com Sun Apr 20 14:36:08 2008 From: progdan at progdansoft.com (Dan Vratil) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:36:08 +0200 Subject: [Lina-dev] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> References: <200804201122.m3KBMuxr032150@smtp.scnet.cz> Message-ID: <200804202136.09794.progdan@progdansoft.com> Ahoj, dekujeme za pozvani. Potvrzuju ucast vsech ctyrech :) On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:22:38 Petra Gaislerov? wrote: > Tyto soubory byly odesl?ny pomoc? programu Zoner Photo Studio 8. > Pro dal?? informace nav?tivte http://www.zoner.cz/zps. -- Dan Vr?til ProgDan Soft ----------------- Web: www.progdansoft.com E-mail: progdan at progdansoft.com ICQ: 249163429 Jabber: progdan at jabber.cz Mobil: +420732326870